Episode 16: Finding Fulfillment in the Fabric of Family and Well-being with special guest Alexandria Smith

Kayla: Hey, alex, how’s it going.

Alex: Kayla, how are you doing today?

Kayla: I’m doing well, Thank you. Before we get started, let me go ahead and introduce you. So this is Alexandria. She is a woman’s wellness advocate and educator with over 20 years of experience in mental health. She’s the creative force behind the mom, wife, worship life brand and blog dedicated to helping women thrive in motherhood, marriage and mental wellness. So welcome again, Alexandria.

Alex: Thank you so much for having me.

Kayla: Yes, of course, and, as always, the first question I always ask everyone is what is your definition of balance?

Alex: That’s a great question. My personal definition of balance is being able to have time to do the things that are necessary to take care of my roles as a mom and a wife, while also having time and energy to do the things that I love to do, such as running my business, taking care of myself, spending time with my friends and not feeling guilt in doing those things and still being present from my family and my loved ones.

Kayla: Yeah, that’s so good and I. The point that really stuck out to me was your mention of not just having the time but also having the energy to do that, because no one likes to go out with their girlfriends if they’re also completely exhausted. It’s not Right, exactly that’s defeating the purpose of even going and hanging out with those people.

Alex: That is so true, yes.

Kayla: And so what has been your experience? How has this come up for you in your own life?

Alex: So, I’ve kind of gone from a place where I was surviving when I first had my my oldest daughter, who’s seven. Now, of course, as a new mom, you have no idea what to expect. You don’t know. You know what these responsibilities are going to look like.

Alex: I was working full time at the time as a teacher, so that was already a very demanding job, and so it just I was just barely making it like, crawling out of bed to go to work, coming home exhausted, not wanting to spend time with my husband, with my baby, and I just knew we needed to do something different.

Alex: So we decided that I would leave my job as a teacher and stay home full time, and that was even, I would say, more difficult, because I didn’t know what that entailed at all. You know as well. So it was a lot of loneliness, it was a lot of isolation and me wanting to be around adults again and have those relationships and connections. So in all of that I got to a place where I started to find some things of interest for myself and, you know, find I started going to the yoga studio.

Alex: I started, you know, picking up some hobbies. I took the sewing class, so I just did some things that I had always wanted to do, that I wasn’t able to do when I was working, and it led me to the importance of taking care of myself and taking care of those desires that I have outside of being a mom and a wife.

Alex: So I’ve gotten to a point now where I’m able to balance, you know, the between the work I do from home, the time I spend with my children and my husband, the time I spend in taking care of myself and in doing those things that I love, and I really I feel like I’ve gotten to a place where I’m no longer surviving but I’m thriving.

Kayla: That’s amazing. That’s awesome, and you mentioned that you didn’t realize all that would. That would need to happen once you became a mom and, no matter how many books you read, how many classes you attend, you just don’t know what it’s going to be like for you, what the temperament of your baby is going to be like, until it’s actually happening. Because even if you are already a mom and you have a second or third child, the temperaments of babies are so different, or they can be yes.

Alex: I was my first daughter. I took all the classes I did, I read all the books. You know I prepared as much as I thought any mom could prepare and it was still not enough because, like you said, this child comes into the world and they’re not like you. You know they’re not.

Alex: You know they have their own personality, even as a newborn baby, you know and you have to learn how to incorporate that into your life and how to help them to be the best person that they can be without trying to force your you know, your ways and your ideas upon them and allow them to be their own person.

Alex: And I think that was the most difficult battle I faced, and being a mom was learning how to let my, my daughters, be their own person and figure it out, you know, guide them to figuring it out as a parent, but not force them to do things a certain way. You know, yeah, what helped you with that.

Kayla: I know you have a child who’s seven. My oldest is eight, so I am in that place too.

Alex: Yes, and then I have a two year old as well, so I don’t know what helped me with that. It’s just reflecting on my own childhood, you know. I think we parent a lot the way that we were parented, you know. So, reflecting on my own childhood and what my parents I feel did very well and what I felt could have used some improvement, and trying to improve in the way that I parent my children, you know, yeah, and then trying to figure out how to you know, not just being a mom, but balancing also our role as a wife as well.

Alex: Exactly, and that’s a whole different ball game.

Kayla: Yeah.

Alex: Because you want to and you know, all the advice is to keep your marriage first, put your marriage first, you know. But in reality, you have these little children who need you and who are dependent upon you for so many things, and there are times when your marriage, just you can’t put your husband first because you have these little dependent children, you know, who have to be put first in certain scenarios, you know. So we have really been working on that and trying to find balance in nurturing our relationship, our marriage relationship, while also, you know, being present and parenting our children.

Kayla: Yeah, and as I was going through some of your blog posts on your website, there was quite a few stuff around that topic of marriage and being a mom, because it’s completely different from marriage without children.

Alex: Yes, it is For me myself.

Alex: We had our daughter very early on in our marriage because we I call us late bloomers we got married.

Alex: I was 35 when we got married, so we wanted to quickly start our family and so we didn’t have a whole lot of experience with being married and not having children.

Alex: We had more experience with dating and not having children, which is even, I think, more fun when you’re able to date kind of carefree and not have the responsibilities of a marriage. But I do think it’s important to, and what we always try to come back to is those things that we did when we were dating, those things that really helped us to connect and made us things that we looked forward to.

Alex: It could be small things, like me and my husband used to like to watch a show I forget the name of it, it doesn’t come on anymore but one of the talent shows where we would watch and we would get together every week. I would need to go to his apartment or he would come to my apartment and we would watch the show and talk about it afterwards. So things like that we always try to come back to remember when we used to do so and so, and you, think about those feelings that you had, and I think those are important.

Kayla: Oh, absolutely. I was creating actually a presentation around this topic of balancing marriage after having kids and how to continue basically having the romance there or just keeping that relationship in a good place, even after kids, because for so many of us it kind of gets put on the back burner, because you’re basically in survival mode when you have your first kid or even when you just have a baby in general, you’re trying to figure everything out and all of the small things that you did because it’s usually the small things, all those small things that you did that you enjoy together, all of the pursuit it’s no longer happening because you’re exhausted, you’re tired. There’s so much other things.

Kayla: quote unquote other things, right, it just is Uh-huh that need to get done or you believe should be done before you get to enjoy your relationship or even yourself. And so one of the things that came up was it’s actually those small things that matter and the friendship that you have with your partner that can really help bring back that relationship or to continue the relationship if you feel, or if you’d like, just had a baby and you’re like, well, I don’t want my marriage to slip, so what can we do?

Kayla: And it’s really continuing that friendship piece and building upon that, continuing to get to know each other, always asking those questions, because we’re not the same people we were before, kids. Once baby enters, we could become totally different people.

Alex: Yes, we do, and throughout the marriage, as we grow, we become different people, we evolve, we learn new things and sometimes our partner is not evolving with us in the same way.

Alex: You know one thing that I tell people a lot and I think it has been really important in my own marriage we do marriage counseling every two weeks, no matter if we’re having issues or if everything is going good.

Alex: We don’t say, oh, we’re doing fine this week, let’s skip it. We consistently go to marriage counseling. We do it virtually, so it makes it really easy to connect wherever we are, and that has been very important for us in being able to have those tough conversations.

Alex: And sometimes I even find myself, if I’m feeling upset about something or maybe a little resentful about something, I will hold off because I know marriage counseling is coming up and I know I have that mediator there who can help us have that difficult conversation and can help us get through that rough patch. If there’s a rough patch or if we’re in a good place, you know we can get our kudos and our advoids, you know, for doing great with the last two weeks and it’s really just been so good for us to help us maintain a cordial relationship, you know, even during the tough times. Because, like you said, that friendship is important, it has to be the foundation. If that’s not there, it’s difficult to even agree to do something like this, you know.

Kayla: Yeah, and that is having that time where you know you can come together or you know this is going to be the time that I get to talk about these hard things.

Kayla: That’s so important, whether or not you are doing this in therapy, if you’re not going to therapy. Even having this time that set aside where you know like I can bring up this tough stuff because that happens to where we want to talk about something and either we feel it’s not the right time or we just forget about it, or we’re just losing it down and then it builds up resentment because we just never brought it up and it could have just been a maybe an easy conversation if it would have been brought up from the start, versus all of the resentment that’s built up from. That makes it’s a much harder conversation to have.

Kayla: Yeah, so having specific times where you’re talking about things and you know you’re going to have a sick down conversation and it doesn’t mean that sit down conversation is all about the bad. I know this is the time where we get to focus and talk about things that are going well or things that we want to change or tweak is really important.

Alex: Yes, and it’s been so vital for us in our relationship.

Kayla: Yeah. So going back to your experiences and being able to take these classes, I know a lot of women struggle with the guilt of of allowing themselves to try these new things. And to experience new things or often that comes up with my clients is well, I don’t really know what I like, I don’t know what I want to spend my time doing, and I often tell them it’s going out there and trying these new experiences to see what you do enjoy.

Kayla: Yeah, so what helped you to finally just get out there and start doing these things?

Alex: I had these ideas of things I’ve always wanted to do. I always wanted to learn how to, so I’ve always had an interest in dance, you know. So I remember taking like a ballroom dance class or it wasn’t, you know, just silly things. And actually, along with my marriage counselor, I do also see a psychologist every two weeks as well, and she was suggesting there’s a group that you can join online where they do meetups around town and you can, you know type in your different interest areas and there’s all these different meetups where you can go.

Alex: So I started going to a meetup for it wasn’t ballroom dancing, I forget what it was, but it me in mind that would. She would say, oh, just drag somebody with you if you don’t want to go by yourself, so I would get my sister and we would go to the dance classes. So it’s just things that I was interested in, maybe prior to getting married or prior to having children, and I wanted to explore those interests you know, more fully.

Alex: So I really, I think, without having you know, my therapist, psychologist, what I call my, my collaborative care team, that kind of helps me figure things out that I probably wouldn’t figure out on my own, you know, to push me to do things outside of the little box that I like to stay in. I think that really helps me to get outside of my own head a lot, because I am painfully introverted like it’s really painful, you know.

Alex: So me, getting around large people can be mentally draining, I mean to where I’m when I’m done, and I just want to lay down. And my husband is the complete opposite. He is very extroverted, he’s very energized by being around people. So, you know, we have to kind of find a balance there where we can go out and enjoy things together. And it’s not like painful for me, you know.

Alex: So I think, having that, that care team and you know my, I do see a psychiatrist, a psychologist, the marriage counselor, I have a productivity and I think that’s what I’m trying to do. But, you know, all these things kind of really work together to help me find that balance and maintain the balance that is necessary to have a joyful life, you know, and to have a life that I can really love and enjoy.

Kayla: So thank you to find the things that you did enjoy. And then, how did you make time for those things?

Alex: So, like you mentioned in the introduction, I have been in the mental health space for over 20 years and that is as a patient. So that is my own personal experience in dealing with coping with a chronic mental illness and finding ways to live a full life in spite of having this illness that never goes away, you know. So in finding those things that I enjoy, it’s been a process. It’s been a very long learning process where I try some new things. I realize I don’t like them and I don’t do them anymore.

Kayla: So I have to try something different.

Alex: You know, for example, I attended a conference for mom-preneurs just last weekend and I was really excited about going, but when I got there I was so homesick it was, you know. I felt like I was gone for too long. My children missed me, I missed them, and so I said you know what? I can’t travel for this long anymore, like I have to do short trips if I’m gonna travel.

Alex: And then I had a trip plan the following weekend that I actually canceled because I just couldn’t even fathom in my mind how I would leave my family again just the week after you know so it’s, I realized that it’s okay to pivot.

Alex: When we try new things, we don’t like them. Then it’s okay to say, okay, what can I try differently next time so that it works better for me and so that it’s not causing me so much strife, you know, but it’s helping me to enhance my life instead of causing, you know, negativity and being more life draining than it is life giving.

Kayla: Yeah, yeah, and from what I found, the only way you can figure those things out is if you put yourself in those situations.

Alex: Exactly.

Kayla: Yeah, you would have never known that maybe a week long trip was too long versus okay, maybe four days is the sweet spot.

Alex: Yes, I think three for me yeah.

Kayla: And it’s gonna vary for different people. Some people love those week long things or wanna go on these self-improvement or business improvement conferences and retreats. They can’t do it for longer and there’s no shame in that. It’s just figuring out what is going to be the right time for you.

Alex: Exactly exactly, and I encourage mothers a lot to not rely on so much, not rely so much on what we’re reading, you know, what we’re seeing online, but to really figure out what works for us, what works for our family, what works for you personally, because everything that works for someone else is not necessarily going to work for me, and I have learned again learned it through experience, you know.

Kayla: Yeah, was there something I know you had mentioned, like your struggles with mental health, but was there something that was a catalyst that made you recognize okay, I do need to start doing more things for myself.

Alex: After I had my first order I began. Let me back up. So I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when I was about 21 years old. I was in denial for a very long time. You know, at such a young age you don’t really want to accept that you have this illness. That’s not gonna go away. You have to be on medication for the rest of your life. That’s the route you choose, you know. So it was very difficult for me to accept it in the beginning, and once I did accept it and started receiving treatment, and then it was very hard to find treatment that worked, that didn’t have so many negative side effects, you know. So that was in and of itself a whole different experience.

Alex: So once I had my oldest daughter, I began to have what we call rapid cycles, where I was having major depressive episodes, like back to back to back. It was just like you know, I would be in the hospital, maybe once a month. It was terrible, and so really that was the catalyst in me trying to find a treatment plan and a medication regimen and a therapy regimen that would really help me to maintain stability over longer periods of time so that I could be present with my children. I mean, nobody wants to be in and out of the hospital and having other people taking care of your children when you’re their main caregiver. You know, I really just wanted to do it so that I can find that stability and hold on to it, you know.

Kayla: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, well, thank you so much for

Kayla: opening up for that. I know that’s not always easy, oh.

Alex: I don’t mind talking about it at all. I think it’s conversation that’s very important to have and a lot of people don’t like to share because it’s you know, it depends on the person and in how they feel about sharing their experiences, but I Feel that the change comes in talking about it, talking through it and and other people being able to relate and say, oh wow, I’ve been through that as well.

Kayla: Oh wow, you know how did you cross that bridge?

Alex: How did you get past that point? You know, and and having those open conversations are what really helps people to get to a state of, like I said, stability, and thriving versus surviving.

Kayla: Oh, yeah, and that was one of the major reasons why I even created this podcast in the first place is Because it makes it easier to hear other people’s stories on a topic that you know that you may be going through in this moment.

Alex: Yes, I.

Kayla: Absolutely love podcasts, and I have a few that I regularly listen to that are more on like self-improvement or like entrepreneurship, because, you know, I’m a business owner too. So I have these main ones that I go to and I feel really connected to the hosts and some of the guests that they have, and it’s really helped me, and so I Wanted to create something that would help other moms that are looking to you know Improve their life in a better way and be able to show up as the mom that they want to be, as the woman that they want to be.

Alex: Absolutely, absolutely, it’s. It’s just so. Like I told you earlier, it’s just such an important conversation to have and, like you said, through those conversations and feeling like you’re connecting With the person you know either the podcast host or the podcast guest and feeling like there’s some you know that you can resonate in some way with what they’re saying and then it may catapult you to making the change you need to make in order to, like you said, become the best mom, the best wife, the best person that you can be.

Kayla: Mm-hmm, and also recognizing that you get to choose what that is. There’s no definition for the best mom ever, the best wife, or you get to choose how much and how much effort you you want to and how much effort you actually put in. Because Sometimes, when we’re striving for the best, when we say your best, it’s still wrapped in that perfection, yes, but it’s almost hidden, because we’re not saying how do I be the perfect wife or the perfect mom or, you know, the perfect entrepreneur employee, but when we say our best, it’s almost as if it’s hidden in the perfection, like, well, if I say my best, I’m not working toward perfection, but in reality it’s, it’s almost still like we’re working for perfection.

Alex: Exactly, yeah, and I. That’s. Perfectionism is something that I have struggled with for many years and I think I’m finally getting to a place where I’m able to let a lot of things go. And that was very difficult for me because I, just Like you said, you know thinking of your best and you know thinking of, and especially In knowing that people have a perception of you based on what you’ve been able to produce or you know to show in the past, and if I’m not able to live up to that now, then it feels like I’m not as good as I used to be.

Alex: You know, and so you know, even trying to you think about women having children and trying to get back to their Body before having children, instead of learning to accept you know that my body has been through so much and my body has Accomplished so much, and you know this is the new me and let me embrace it. You know, and of course, we want to be the most healthy person that we can be, but we don’t have to be the this, we don’t have to have that perfect body.

Alex: It’s almost really impossible to have the same body, as you know you had before, like for myself to see sections, you know, and in two children after 35, you know, I mean so it’s just having being able to accept who we are In the in the present moment, and not so much holding on to who we used to be or who we think we should be in order to be the best, I, I the best.

Kayla: Yeah, yeah. And how is it that you keep yourself in the present moment?

Alex: Again, it’s taking a lot of work and a lot of guidance from my care team, a lot of reminding. You know that I have a sticky note I’m looking at it on my bulletin board here where I was having a complete meltdown one day with my psychologist and she said, listen, I want you to get a sheet of paper and write this down. Write it down right now. And it says I can have my own identity, I can contribute, I can continue with my passions, I can be creative and an entrepreneur. So these things that I have to be reminded of that you know I’m thinking.

Alex: Every time I try to create, every time I get a new idea, every time I get excited about something, it triggers you know the symptoms of my mental illness and it causes me to have this reaction. And she said, no, you can do these things. We just have to, you know again, find a good balance. So having those reminders and having that support my husband is super supportive and kind of knows what I need to hear, when I need to hear it, and also for me. I have a very close relationship with God and I rely on that and I lean into that when I’m feeling like I’m not enough, or I don’t know what to do, or I don’t know what’s coming next. I just have to kind of rest in. Everything is going to work together for my good. And if I rest in that, I’m always just amazed at what God can do and what he does do on my behalf. When I can relinquish that control and let him be God, you know.

Kayla: Yeah, yeah. Can you share more insight on how spirituality influences your daily life and offers you balance?

Alex: Absolutely Like I said that that, that my relationship with God is, is my foundation, so my spiritual foundation, and it’s something that I’m able to always come back to and I’m not going to sit here and say that I’m the most, you know, disciplined person when it comes to reading my Bible daily.

Alex: You know, I do try to definitely keep maintain my relationship by doing those things daily prayer and daily study but it’s difficult when we have all of these other responsibilities, you know.

Alex: But one thing that I do definitely do is try to maintain an open conversation with God where it’s not just, you know, I have to be in a place at a time in doing prayer this way, but it’s not just a time when I’m maybe cleaning up the house and I’m singing a song that reminds me of God’s grace and I’m able to this day thank you, god, you know, thank you for all you’ve done for me, you know, just keeping an attitude of gratitude and all those things.

Alex: So it’s an ongoing relationship that I try to maintain so that not only am I able to talk to God, but I’m able to hear from God in those important times in my life when I have decisions to make and I don’t know what to do and you know we can go to our friends or go to our family, but it’s so important to have that connection, I think, for ourselves and to be able to really recognize when God is working. You know, and just seeing how amazing, it’s just amazing to see how things work out, you know, and I just love that and I am so grateful for being able to be in tune to that and know that that God is very present and very willing to be there for us. You know when we need it.

Kayla: Yeah, that’s awesome. So you had said you often are having like this conversation with God, often like open communication.

Alex: Yes.

Kayla: How does that enhance your life or help you to be able to relinquish that control? Because I know that that’s a lot of what moms do struggle with is feeling like they have to hold on to a lot of things because if, if it’s out of their control, then things are going to fall apart.

Alex: Yes, that’s a great question.

Alex: I would like to give you an example, a very recent example. As a new entrepreneur, I have been struggling to find my way and to find you know I struggle with. Am I doing this the right way? You know, is this the? Did I take all of the right steps in the right order, and every few months I would say every three to six months I get to a point and I just say you know what? I don’t want to do this anymore you know.

Alex: It’s just, it’s too hard, it’s too time consuming, it’s just, you know it’s not working the way I thought it would work. And then I get a phone call, you know, and I get someone who says the work that you’re doing is amazing. You’re on the right track. You know, we want to help you with this, or I would like to introduce you to this person, or, you know, I would like to give you the opportunity to work with my organization in this way. It’s just mind blowing.

Alex: You know that right when I’m ready to throw in the towel, here comes these opportunities that I don’t even know where they come from. You know what I mean. So it’s just like that makes it possible for me to relinquish control, because it’s a reminder and it comes at the perfect time. It comes right when I’m ready to give up and then God says oh no, you know, I’m here, I’m still here, you know, and I’m still working. You just got to trust me, you know.

Alex: So it’s those reminders, those things that help me to keep going and help me to understand that it’s okay to relinquish control, that if I and it’s even not just okay it’s better if I do, because if I do, you know it’s more likely, more likely that these opportunities will come if I’m not trying to have my hand in everything and do everything that I believe is necessary, versus letting you know God do what he knows will get me where he wants me to be. And that’s my prayer Every day is that I will be in God’s will, that what I’m doing will not be for my own glory, it will not be for my own, you know fame or fortune, but it will be so that God will be glorified. And I think as long as I keep that focus, then I can trust that things will work out.

Kayla: Yeah, I do find that it’s easy to get caught up in what. Was this the right choice? Did I make the right decision? Am I taking the right steps? And what I found is there’s not wrong steps. Right, whatever steps you’re taking are the steps you were supposed to take Exactly. Because you needed to learn a lesson there.

Kayla: Exactly so if you took those steps, it’s not wrong. They’re all right steps for the most part. Yes, maybe some are a little bit more difficult than other, than other paths, but we take the path that we’re supposed to go on.

Alex: Yes, absolutely. And the step on that path that feels like the wrong step. If we allow it and we relinquish that control, it will lead to the next thing that, and then you can look back and say, wow, you know that what? I thought, was was set up to to Bring me down. Actually lifted me up, you know.

Kayla: Yeah, yeah. And when we see people that seem to be doing well or better in life, they all had steps to take to get there. For the most part, right, for the most part. There are always exceptions. There are some people who have just fallen into things. But those people who fallen into things or they won the lottery or whatever they didn’t learn the lessons that you may or might have going the other path, and it’s those lessons that are important. If things are coming easy to us, it just means we’re really not learning anything new.

Alex: Yes, and those lessons are also important because it helps us to not make the same mistake over and over again, so that if we feel like what we did didn’t, you know, bring us the result we wanted, and we know, don’t do that anymore. You know, don’t, don’t go that route again, let’s try a different route. So yeah, Mm, hmm.

Kayla: And if you do find yourself falling into some similar patterns, it’s time to get that checked out. Go see someone a therapist or a coach, someone who’s going to help you see where those blocks are that keep you stuck in that pattern. Absolutely, because there’s something there. Yes, yeah, I’m glad you brought that up. It can be painful to see people thriving, but if you’re seeing people thriving just means it’s there for you too.

Alex: You’re on the right path If you’re surrounded by people who are thriving.

Kayla: You are also going to thrive soon as well.

Alex: Yes, and it’s good to surround yourself with those people you know and to listen and be a part of those conversations with those people so that you can learn what steps they took to get where you are trying to go.

Kayla: Yeah, Because the people you surround yourself with are the most influential people in your life. Yes, there’s. I know there’s been studies on like the five you know, people you’re closest to, who you spend most of your time with. Those are the people who are influencing you. Those are the people that you will act and behave as if those are the people you are mostly around. So it’s important to surround ourselves by people who we look up to or who we can look up to.

Alex: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, that’s going to the like guarding your energy.

Kayla: Who are you giving your energy to? Who are you spending your time with?

Alex: Your time. Yes, it’s just so important. Yes, yeah.

Kayla: Because, as moms, we have very limited energy.

Alex: Yes, and you don’t want to waste it. You definitely don’t want to waste it on negative energy and being around negative people and people who are not, you know, helping you to be the best that you can be, or even helping themselves to be the best that they can be, so that you can be encouraged and inspired, you know.

Kayla: Yeah, yeah.

Kayla: So my husband will talk about how, at work, sometimes people will make fun of him because he’s really into like health and fitness and he has goals he wants to reach in those areas and so he eats certain things and it’s usually like a lot of food. So people will like make fun of his sandwich or whatever and he’s like I just I have to ignore them because this is what I want and they’re not doing anything better. But here they are, you know pointing out the things that are different for them, right?

Alex: Yes, I’ve had similar experiences with that, where when I was teaching and, you know, eating lunch in a teacher’s lounge, and I would make my little salads and, you know, have my little protein, and everybody would be like, well, how do you eat? The same thing every day? You know, like how long does it take you to prep those salads? You know, and I think a lot of times people just say things because they don’t know what else to say. You know, they feel like I gotta, I gotta put some kind of input in here, you know. But, like you said, when you have a goal and you know that what you’re doing is working, you know, and that they’re not doing anything that’s working better than you have to just keep pushing towards your goal.

Kayla: Yeah, and we are getting low on times. I wanted to give you the opportunity to talk a little bit more about how you help and encourage women and how, if someone felt connected and wanted to work with you, what are the steps that they can take?

Alex: Absolutely so. I am the founder of an organization called Mom Wife Worship Life, where we offer resources to empower, inspire, encourage women to find balance and thrive in motherhood, marriage and mental wellness. I can be found at my website, momwifeworshiplifecom, on Instagram, pinterest, facebook at momwifeworshiplife, and you can go to momwifeworshiplifecom backslash work with me, and there are several resources there that will give you the opportunity to connect with me if you would like to explore how we can work together to help you find that balance and to thrive in your life as well.

Kayla: Awesome, and we will link all that up in the show notes, so if you miss something, don’t worry, it will be available to you Absolutely. Thank you so much, alexandria, for your time and for your words of wisdom. Thank you so much.

Alex: Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.